Abortion logic
In September 2003 Yahoo had a news story about the execution of Paul Hill. Here is a summary.
Abortion Clinics Fear Execution Reprisals - 09-04-2003
The execution of Paul Hill for the murders of an abortion doctor and his bodyguard left abortion providers holding their breath, wary that the former minister may become a martyr to the anti-abortion cause and spur others to act violently.
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PLEASE READ THIS FIRST: I know many of you who read this have had abortions in the past. I am not trying to lay another guilt trip on you. In this situation I was giving a pointed retort to the people on this particular message board who were blasting anyone who had convictions against abortion. I was simply graphically demonstrating to them in their own words what the gist of their arguments were.
My heart goes out to you who have had horribly messed up situations and have had to make horrible decisions, none of which seemed right at the time. Don't worry. I love you!
Neither is the following a defense of Paul Hill and what he did. I don't address that issue at all, except as relates to the arguments I was illustrating.
Because my tone was very pointed and direct (for effect) you may not want to read this if abortion is a sensitive issue for you.
The following is my repsonse to what people were posting on the Yahoo message board about the story.
Peace.
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You have finally CONVINCED ME!!!!
by: dougdoan (42/M/Jacksonville, Florida) 09/04/03 12:53 am
Msg: 12785 of 15888
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For a long time now I haven't been able to see the logic in the pro-choice argument. God knows I've tried. I thought I would look at the posts on the boards tonight with an open mind, to see what I was missing. Here is what you have helped me to finally understand. Thank you!
1. You shouldn't oppose abortion unless you are personally willing and able to take in all the rescued babies and raise them until they are 18.
2. The fetus is PART OF the woman's body, not just IN IT.
3. Killing an innocent life, and killing to PROTECT an innocent life are exactly the same... both MURDER!
4. The fact that Paul Hill believed that abortion is killing innocent human beings, and was willing to give up his own life in order to try and stop it makes him a crazy, lunatic, nut case.
5. God is cool with abortion, because Mary Magdalene must have had abortions or miscarriages before she met Jesus.
6. Killing a developing fetus in the womb and masturbating are just the same. They both destroy life.
7. It is not right to tell someone their actions are wrong. Only God can judge.
8. If we were to prosecute women who kill their unborn babies than we would need to prosecute women for other behaviors that are injurious to the well-being of the fetus.
9. Men are not allowed an opinion about abortion because they don't carry and deliver babies.
10. The Supreme Court of the United States of America said abortion is LEGAL. Case closed.
11. The fetus is not a baby unless and until the mother decides to "will" it to live.
12. If a fetus can not survive on it's own outside the womb then it is not "viable" and has no rights. (I haven't been able to figure out just when that is... when a baby can survive on it's own without adult intervention... third tri-mester? 2 or 3 years old? 18? I'll need some more help with this one please.)
13. Adding another screwed up person to this planet is not going to help anything.
14. Vocalizing that abortion is wrong "instills guilt."
15. Defending the unborn = anti-woman.
16. The Saudi Arabians who slammed planes into buildings and killed 3,000 ordinary citizens are exactly the same as Paul Hill killing someone directly involved in perpetrating the atrocity he was trying to prevent. They are both TERRORISTS!
17. If reasons 1 through 16 don't work, NAME CALL!! Some good names are: hypocrites, religious fanatics, lunatics, ignorant b*stards, scum, Nazis, etc. "Shut up and go home" works sometimes too.
Well, after reading hundreds of posts, that's what I could find. If I missed any other brilliant arguments, please let me know. I do not want to stray off the path of my new-found enlightenment... Thanks so much!
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SAMPLE RESPONSES
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Re: You have finally CONVINCED ME!!!!by: knight_of_azeroth 09/04/03 12:55 amMsg: 12801 of 15907 BRILLIANT
Posted as a reply to: Msg 12785 by dougdoan
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Re: You have finally CONVINCED ME!!!!by: dantonsix (29/F/TX) 09/04/03 12:59 amMsg: 12859 of 15908 very funny...and enlightening. You get a recommendation.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 12785 by dougdoan
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Re: You have finally CONVINCED ME!!!!by: rokykynarderickson (35/M/Western Hemisphere) 09/04/03 01:08 amMsg: 12978 of 15910 A fitting, astutely sarcastic observation of pro-choice logic!! Bravo!!
Posted as a reply to: Msg 12859 by dantonsix
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Re: You have finally CONVINCED ME!!!!by: randy_coyote 09/04/03 01:00 amMsg: 12866 of 15911 Can you post that again just so I can recommend it a second time?Bravo!
Posted as a reply to: Msg 12785 by dougdoan
2 comments:
Well...its easy to talk about it, its another to live it. Some very good point and...I've had one. I was 16 1/2.
The thing is, we as Christians have these levels of sin: divorce, homosexuality, abortion, I dont know what else. But, does God? Really?
Yeah, i was hoping this wouldn't be a downer to anyone who has had an abortion. I know many who have. It was simply a reaction to the "logic" that many people use to condone or support it.
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